Increasing the Divide
Although I have yet to see a memo or piece of written policy, suffice it to say that the ban of service BDUs has been made official through the actions of the NUCC CoC (Chain of Command).
For the past week or so, the latest rumor on the hill has been the true destruction of Service Uniform Tuesdays. One cadet, not even enrolled in ROTC, was marked APOD from the formation he was standing in ... for wearing his service ACUs. This has expanded to include the Coast Guard option cadets, and any uniform with a Reserve Unit or National Guard patch.
Right. It's not like he showed up in a bathrobe (which I've seen). I believe cadetsskip miss enough formations without being marked APOD from the ones they actually bother to attend, not to mention for reasons of a policy which, to my knowledge is unpublished and undistributed. If someone could help me find this in writing, I shall gladly rescind the previous comment.
Besides, what is so offensive about a flag patch? What is so threatening about the cadets that took that initiative? What is wrong with cadets that are really in the "service" wearing their "service" uniforms and showing it?
Don't tell me it's for uniformity, because if that's the case you'd better choose one ROTC for the school to keep and pitch the others, since the Marines have their digi's; the Navy, their Khakis; the Air Force, theirpajamas flight suits. What brought on this sudden change?
It amazes me. These things should be encouraged, not banned. Is it just me, or does this strike anyone else as backasswards?
This just tells the real soldiers (read as: those wearing service uniforms) that the initiative they took is not important to the Corps. That the training they did does not matter.
As for the cadets without service uniforms to wear ... do you care if those that have them, wear them? My guess would be 'no.' Correct me if I'm wrong. You'd be in Cadet ROTC uniform or Norwich fields. That being said, who does care? Who cares enough ... so much, in fact, as to ban them entirely?
It wasn't a "we're better than you" concept, but a "wear 'em if you got 'em" idea.
Here's some food for thought:
Banning the wear of the uniform does not devalue thier experiences & units to them ... they know what they've gone through ... but it may just have an effect on how they view the Corps. Perhaps that was the desired outcome of the policy?
Keep in mind that every rule, regulation and policy made in any institution makes a statement about that institution itself. The reporting of honor violations, for example, shows that the principles of honor and integrity are valued at Norwich. Not wearing hats in the mess hall or spitting on the UP are enforced because respect is also valued here.
Cadets are not authorized to wear service uniforms other than ROTC cadet uniforms anymore on Tuesdays.
What statement does this make in reference to the institution's views on the service?
You Tell Me!
For the past week or so, the latest rumor on the hill has been the true destruction of Service Uniform Tuesdays. One cadet, not even enrolled in ROTC, was marked APOD from the formation he was standing in ... for wearing his service ACUs. This has expanded to include the Coast Guard option cadets, and any uniform with a Reserve Unit or National Guard patch.
Right. It's not like he showed up in a bathrobe (which I've seen). I believe cadets
Besides, what is so offensive about a flag patch? What is so threatening about the cadets that took that initiative? What is wrong with cadets that are really in the "service" wearing their "service" uniforms and showing it?
Don't tell me it's for uniformity, because if that's the case you'd better choose one ROTC for the school to keep and pitch the others, since the Marines have their digi's; the Navy, their Khakis; the Air Force, their
It amazes me. These things should be encouraged, not banned. Is it just me, or does this strike anyone else as backasswards?
This just tells the real soldiers (read as: those wearing service uniforms) that the initiative they took is not important to the Corps. That the training they did does not matter.
As for the cadets without service uniforms to wear ... do you care if those that have them, wear them? My guess would be 'no.' Correct me if I'm wrong. You'd be in Cadet ROTC uniform or Norwich fields. That being said, who does care? Who cares enough ... so much, in fact, as to ban them entirely?
It wasn't a "we're better than you" concept, but a "wear 'em if you got 'em" idea.
Here's some food for thought:
Banning the wear of the uniform does not devalue thier experiences & units to them ... they know what they've gone through ... but it may just have an effect on how they view the Corps. Perhaps that was the desired outcome of the policy?
Keep in mind that every rule, regulation and policy made in any institution makes a statement about that institution itself. The reporting of honor violations, for example, shows that the principles of honor and integrity are valued at Norwich. Not wearing hats in the mess hall or spitting on the UP are enforced because respect is also valued here.
Cadets are not authorized to wear service uniforms other than ROTC cadet uniforms anymore on Tuesdays.
What statement does this make in reference to the institution's views on the service?
You Tell Me!
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posted by Spitfire at 7:32 AM
4 Comments:
yeah I think it is silly, but it is a cadet command thing, not just one school. evidently, ANY ROTC cadet has to wear cadet issued uniforms, and they aren't allowed to wear unit-issued ones. We have been doing it for years and I guess it has always been wrong, our people just started enforcing it finally this year.
Yes that is a valid point. But those of us who aren't in ROTC and yet are still enlisted should be able to wear our respective service uniforms. I am the one who was marked APOD for being in my National Guard uniform. I am not in Army ROTC and therefore do not fall under their command. I completely understand the ROTC cadets not being able to wear their National Guard BDU's because their Colonel told them they can't and he has every right to do that. But that should not fall on to me or any other National Guardsmen or Reservist, Marine Reservist, Coast Guardsmen etc. It is only the new Army Colonel that started this for the Army cadets, and the Regimental Commander, who is prior enlisted National Guard herself and my rook sister, decided to make it Corps wide. I argued with her about it but they claim that an Army ROTC Colonel has authority over all of the Corps and can tell us non Army ROTC cadets what we can and can't wear.
It's got to be an all-or-nothing policy, if anything at all. If the school is striving for uniformity, then the only uniforms that should be worn are Corps uniforms...no ROTC uniforms.
While the policies may seem a bit Nazi-ish, as are many of the other policies put out by our wonderful university, I actually agree with this one.
You seem to be missing the whole point of "service uniform Tuesday." The whole point to wearing a service uniform on Tuesday isn't to show your pride in your service, its so you don't have to change into a different uniform for mil lab. Therefore, there is no reason for individuals not enrolled in ROTC to wear their service uniform.
In fact, if you may recall, it was actually a SENIOR privilage our freshman year to wear your service uniform before mil lab. Maybe we should bring those days back........
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